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The goal of our ButLaw series – dedicated to interviews on anything *but* the law or the practice of law – is to give CEELM readers (ahem, listeners) the chance to meet the humans behind the lawyers we often feature in our magazine. For this edition, we spoke with Bryan Jardine of Wolf Theiss about his pet project, Jardine Hills, and agrotourism in Romania.

The goal of our ButLaw series – dedicated to interviews on anything *but* the law or the practice of law – is to give CEELM readers (ahem, listeners) the chance to meet the humans behind the lawyers we often feature in our magazine. For this first edition, we spoke to Mykola Stetsenko of Avellum about his relatively recently discovered passion for gardening and the tranquility that this hobby brings him.

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